Falta de nitro no mercado, será verdade?
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Falta de nitro no mercado, será verdade?
Galera, fui a uma loja de automodelismo hoje aqui em Bh e o dono da loja disse que o nitrometano está em falta no mercado e que só existem dois países que o fabricam (duvidei), sendo um deles a China e o outro não me recordo. Com base nisso, lembrei do tópico criado a poucos dias pelo nosso companheiro Tionono, que versa sobre a mudança do combustível. Será verdade? Quais as notícias vocês tem ai nas cidades de vocês? Sera que está por vir um novo combustível?
Re: Falta de nitro no mercado, será verdade?
Aff, logo agora que meu galão tá no fim?
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Não é algo de imediato não, mas pode ser que em breve teremos problemas, por isso quero saber da galera. Já disseram que algumas marcas estão até testando novos combustíveis.
Quando vejo tópico repetido.......

Re: Falta de nitro no mercado, será verdade?
Segundo o que li em varios distribuidores, é verdade sim...
tanto que o preço subiu e desceu variasssssssssssss vezes esses tempos... só nao sente a loja que tem um estoque maior...
tanto que o preço subiu e desceu variasssssssssssss vezes esses tempos... só nao sente a loja que tem um estoque maior...
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Re: Falta de nitro no mercado, será verdade?
Algumas respostas, sobre questões envolvendo o tema "falta de nitrometano no mercado"podem ser conseguidas aqui:
http://www.redrc.net/2008/07/olympics-t ... more-10721
http://www.redrc.net/2008/07/olympics-t ... more-10721
É TÊNUE A DIFERENÇA ENTRE O HOBBY E A DOENÇA MENTAL !
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Re: Falta de nitro no mercado, será verdade?
Escutei boatos que o maior produtor de nitrometano é a China ... E devido às olimpíadas e ao alto índice de poluição, que pudemos ver na transmissão das olímpiadas, lá na China , ocorreria uma diminuição da produção de nitro por lá !!! Tanto é verdade que, para realização dos jogos Olímpicos e das paraolimpíadas, as indústrias, de tudo quanto é tipo, tiveram que parar momentaneamente suas produções ( um deles seria o nitrometano ) ... Isso foi imposto a todas as indústrias, principalmente as mais poluentes ( a indústria de nitrometano é uma delas ) Escutei isso de um vendedor de loja de modelismo, me alertando para esse fato ... Porém não dei muita importância ... achei que fosse " conversa de vendedor " ... me lasquei ... hehehe ...Pelo que ele me disse a produção vai normalizar depois de um tempo ... Esperamos que isso normalize o mais rápido possível ... Automodelo sem combustível é igual a fumante sem isqueiro ...
Se escrevi alguma besteira, por favor me corrijam ...
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Re: Falta de nitro no mercado, será verdade?
é moçada onegocio é todo mundo começar a converter seus nitros pra elétrico....
não falta bateria no mercado e não polue o meio ambiente
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
justo agora que vendi toda minha parafernalia de elétrico...
¬¬" droga mesmo
não falta bateria no mercado e não polue o meio ambiente
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
justo agora que vendi toda minha parafernalia de elétrico...
¬¬" droga mesmo
Re: Falta de nitro no mercado, será verdade?
a falta de nitrometano é real e é bem séria........sei disso pq dependo para usar nos carros de corrida 1/1........o preço disparou e agora ficou complicado.........mas o mercado esta se normalizando ULTRA rápido la fora e apesar dos especuladores tudo vai normalizar mas o preço vai ficar alto por um bom tempo e talvez não abaixe........e outra coisa......tem muito combustivel de rc q DIZ usar nitrometano mas na veradade é um treco tipo acetona......entao para quem gosta dos fumacentos, não esquentem a cabeça........kkkkk.........ou larguem disso e transformem em EP.........aqui em curitiba logo vai ter suprimento de combustivel com nitro de verdade..........mas nao sei ao certo datas e tal............
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Re: Falta de nitro no mercado, será verdade?
O Ataffonso, acho que não. Acredito que está realmente na hora de melhorarem o combustível, sem deixar de lado o rendimento. Até pra nós mesmos seria um benefício evitar o contato direto com um material tão tóxico e em uma visão macro seria bom para o planeta. Tomara que os fabricantes desenvolvam algo mais satisfatório.
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Re: Falta de nitro no mercado, será verdade?
Estes são dois testemunhos, de duas pessoas com extrema credibilidade:
Um é VP da GratePlanes - a maior empresa de aermodelismo do mundo
e outro é o DONO da empresa de combustível de jatos da Itália..
Em ambos testemunhos, não lí que teremos problemas da FALTA de combustível (pelo menos os nossos Byron ou Traxxas 20%)..
O problema é mais especulativo do que a "falta" de nitro, segundo o italiano.. além do mais, o Dollar está se desvalorizando frente à outras moedas do mundo..
Segundo o VP da GratPlanes, os insumos para a fabricação do combustível, inclusive os vasilhames, sofreram aumento de preços desde o início do ano, mas nada relacionado à problemas de fabricação de nitrometano em sí.. pois parece que apenas uma fábrica perto da china teve que parar para aliviar a poluíção entre julho e agosto.. assim como todas as outras fábricas em geral daquela região..
Fuel Shortage Q & A
Ken Cutler, Senior Vice President
Great Planes Model Distributors
With all sorts of wild rumors and speculation flying everywhere
regarding the
availability of nitro methane hobby fuel, we thought that it would help
if we tried
to clear up the confusion by answering some of the most frequently asked
questions we have been receiving.
Q. I heard that one nitromethane factory closed which has created a
massive shortage in fuel. Is that true?
A. Not really. There are only two large capacity plants in the world
that produce fuel grade nitromethane suitable for use in hobby fuels. One is in the US, the other in China. Both are still fully operational and conducting business as usual.
The US plant that supplies many of the US hobby fuel bottlers has
decided to temporarily reserve all of its production capacity for other more
profitable business sectors such as pharmaceutical and agricultural products where demand is skyrocketing.
This decision left several bottlers scrambling to re-source their
nitromethane supply, prompting them to eliminate availability of the over 20% nitro blends in order to conserve their nitro supply. This is a short term problem, not a massive shortage situation.
Great Planes has been assured by our factory that we have enough nitro
to continue supplying all percentages of fuel, even those above 20%.
However, we have been informed by Homeland Security that nitro percentages over 50% can no longer be produced. Current supplies can be bottled and sold but no more produced. There is absolutely no truth to the rumor that the FBI is closing down nitro methane plants because of Homeland Security issues.
Q. Is there a shortage of nitromethane production?
A. Yes and No. There are no problems related to the production of
nitromethane other than the Chinese factory being limited to a five day
work week. This limitation is not new and is and has been a problem for all
factories in most of the industrial areas of China for the past several years.
Nitromethane is not being limited nor is it on allocation and from what we understand; there are no indications whatsoever that it will be.
Q. I heard that the fuel shortage had something to do with the
Olympic Games. Is this true?
A. No. The rumor that China wanted to clean the air in Beijing for the
Olympics and shut down factories is true to a degree, but the factory that
produces the nitromethane used in our proprietary fuels is not in Beijing and is not affected.
Q. If there are no production problems or capacity problems with
nitromethane then why is there a sudden shortage of fuel?
A. Panic buying. The rumors which have led some to believe that there
would be no hobby fuel available spread like wild fire causing panic buying and hoarding of fuel. Our own standard 8 to 10 week inventory of fuel was virtually gone in a matter of days as was our next re-stocking order. We literally went through three months of fuel inventory in less than two weeks. Until the supply chain is fully replenished which could take up to six weeks, there might be some on and off availability problems.
Q. If there is no nitro shortage, then why did you and everyone else
raise your prices on fuel at nearly the same time?
A. This would be a much more interesting story if this were about
international intrigue, price fixing, collusion and price gouging, but it is not. The truth is that the cost to produce nitro fuel has been steadily increasing over the past six months and it has nothing to do with supply and demand and/or phantom shortages.
Our bottler has not been passing all of these increases on to us immediately and we have not passed any of the increases on to you, our customers, until just recently. The cost of certain raw materials, methanol, propane and sulfur that are used to make nitromethane, are rapidly climbing. The price of sulfur alone has risen approximately five times in the last twelve months. Further increases in raw material costs such as plastic (for bottles) are a result of escalating crude oil costs.
In addition, the factories are faced with a 17% loss due to the
elimination of China’s export VAT rebates, an 18% loss due to the weakening of the dollar and increased freight costs due to higher oil prices. Currently we have no guarantee on our pricing and are being quoted pricing on a shipment-to-shipment basis. We expect nitro fuel prices will continue to increase, at least in the short term.
Many of the other fuel vendors who were purchasing nitro in the US have
had to re-source to the nitromethane producer located in China and also are susceptible to these price increases.
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Elpidio Mancinelli - Tuesday, July 29, 2008
Dear Sirs
I am the owner of JET’S Fuels from Italy and my production is about 2 Mil. of liters each year. I buy nitromethan of first grade of same quality of angus nitro, from China from many years, and the the real motiv for the nitro shortage is confirmed from our supplier that work on Shandong region. The govern obliged to stop the production of nitro for July and August months. Some factory continued a reduced production but the quantity is not sufficent for the market.
The prices are high only because there’s a speculation in act from china manufacturers too. In the last 2 months the quotation of the china nitrometane is increased of double. In the last year is increased almost of 3 time !!
However with a good order plan the JET’S never stopped any supply of fuel to his customers. We only reduced the sales of high nitro grade fuel for 15 days, but now we are able to continue regularly to supply our customers with a good nitro stock almost up end of September. We only will increase our prices of fuels of 5% from fisrt September, but this increase of price was planned still from January, because our pricelist was stop from 2 years. Any increase of price of fuels for the nitro shortage. We only planned a good order plan.
I apologize with all if my english language is not perfect
Best Regards
Mancinelli Elpidio
Owner of JET’S Fuels - Italy
Um é VP da GratePlanes - a maior empresa de aermodelismo do mundo
e outro é o DONO da empresa de combustível de jatos da Itália..
Em ambos testemunhos, não lí que teremos problemas da FALTA de combustível (pelo menos os nossos Byron ou Traxxas 20%)..
O problema é mais especulativo do que a "falta" de nitro, segundo o italiano.. além do mais, o Dollar está se desvalorizando frente à outras moedas do mundo..
Segundo o VP da GratPlanes, os insumos para a fabricação do combustível, inclusive os vasilhames, sofreram aumento de preços desde o início do ano, mas nada relacionado à problemas de fabricação de nitrometano em sí.. pois parece que apenas uma fábrica perto da china teve que parar para aliviar a poluíção entre julho e agosto.. assim como todas as outras fábricas em geral daquela região..
Fuel Shortage Q & A
Ken Cutler, Senior Vice President
Great Planes Model Distributors
With all sorts of wild rumors and speculation flying everywhere
regarding the
availability of nitro methane hobby fuel, we thought that it would help
if we tried
to clear up the confusion by answering some of the most frequently asked
questions we have been receiving.
Q. I heard that one nitromethane factory closed which has created a
massive shortage in fuel. Is that true?
A. Not really. There are only two large capacity plants in the world
that produce fuel grade nitromethane suitable for use in hobby fuels. One is in the US, the other in China. Both are still fully operational and conducting business as usual.
The US plant that supplies many of the US hobby fuel bottlers has
decided to temporarily reserve all of its production capacity for other more
profitable business sectors such as pharmaceutical and agricultural products where demand is skyrocketing.
This decision left several bottlers scrambling to re-source their
nitromethane supply, prompting them to eliminate availability of the over 20% nitro blends in order to conserve their nitro supply. This is a short term problem, not a massive shortage situation.
Great Planes has been assured by our factory that we have enough nitro
to continue supplying all percentages of fuel, even those above 20%.
However, we have been informed by Homeland Security that nitro percentages over 50% can no longer be produced. Current supplies can be bottled and sold but no more produced. There is absolutely no truth to the rumor that the FBI is closing down nitro methane plants because of Homeland Security issues.
Q. Is there a shortage of nitromethane production?
A. Yes and No. There are no problems related to the production of
nitromethane other than the Chinese factory being limited to a five day
work week. This limitation is not new and is and has been a problem for all
factories in most of the industrial areas of China for the past several years.
Nitromethane is not being limited nor is it on allocation and from what we understand; there are no indications whatsoever that it will be.
Q. I heard that the fuel shortage had something to do with the
Olympic Games. Is this true?
A. No. The rumor that China wanted to clean the air in Beijing for the
Olympics and shut down factories is true to a degree, but the factory that
produces the nitromethane used in our proprietary fuels is not in Beijing and is not affected.
Q. If there are no production problems or capacity problems with
nitromethane then why is there a sudden shortage of fuel?
A. Panic buying. The rumors which have led some to believe that there
would be no hobby fuel available spread like wild fire causing panic buying and hoarding of fuel. Our own standard 8 to 10 week inventory of fuel was virtually gone in a matter of days as was our next re-stocking order. We literally went through three months of fuel inventory in less than two weeks. Until the supply chain is fully replenished which could take up to six weeks, there might be some on and off availability problems.
Q. If there is no nitro shortage, then why did you and everyone else
raise your prices on fuel at nearly the same time?
A. This would be a much more interesting story if this were about
international intrigue, price fixing, collusion and price gouging, but it is not. The truth is that the cost to produce nitro fuel has been steadily increasing over the past six months and it has nothing to do with supply and demand and/or phantom shortages.
Our bottler has not been passing all of these increases on to us immediately and we have not passed any of the increases on to you, our customers, until just recently. The cost of certain raw materials, methanol, propane and sulfur that are used to make nitromethane, are rapidly climbing. The price of sulfur alone has risen approximately five times in the last twelve months. Further increases in raw material costs such as plastic (for bottles) are a result of escalating crude oil costs.
In addition, the factories are faced with a 17% loss due to the
elimination of China’s export VAT rebates, an 18% loss due to the weakening of the dollar and increased freight costs due to higher oil prices. Currently we have no guarantee on our pricing and are being quoted pricing on a shipment-to-shipment basis. We expect nitro fuel prices will continue to increase, at least in the short term.
Many of the other fuel vendors who were purchasing nitro in the US have
had to re-source to the nitromethane producer located in China and also are susceptible to these price increases.
----
Elpidio Mancinelli - Tuesday, July 29, 2008
Dear Sirs
I am the owner of JET’S Fuels from Italy and my production is about 2 Mil. of liters each year. I buy nitromethan of first grade of same quality of angus nitro, from China from many years, and the the real motiv for the nitro shortage is confirmed from our supplier that work on Shandong region. The govern obliged to stop the production of nitro for July and August months. Some factory continued a reduced production but the quantity is not sufficent for the market.
The prices are high only because there’s a speculation in act from china manufacturers too. In the last 2 months the quotation of the china nitrometane is increased of double. In the last year is increased almost of 3 time !!
However with a good order plan the JET’S never stopped any supply of fuel to his customers. We only reduced the sales of high nitro grade fuel for 15 days, but now we are able to continue regularly to supply our customers with a good nitro stock almost up end of September. We only will increase our prices of fuels of 5% from fisrt September, but this increase of price was planned still from January, because our pricelist was stop from 2 years. Any increase of price of fuels for the nitro shortage. We only planned a good order plan.
I apologize with all if my english language is not perfect
Best Regards
Mancinelli Elpidio
Owner of JET’S Fuels - Italy
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Re: Falta de nitro no mercado, será verdade?
Abib ... creio que para nós automodelistas que sabemos o custo de praticar esse hobby, ( que não é dos mais baratos ) não teria problema um aumento nos preços dos combustíveis .... Pelo menos, na minha opinião, subir em 10,00 ou 20,00 o preço do combustível não afetaria em nada o hobby .... Ninguém deixará de ser um automodelista devido a um aumento no $$$$$$ de comb ...
O problema está em boicotes na produçao do nitro ( por ser muito poluente sua fabricação ) ... Sou péssimo no Inglês e por isso não li esse artigo que vc postou aí em cima .. Pelo que entendi na sua introdução, o problema é só especulação ... assim espero ...
Subir pode ... Não pode é faltar !!!
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O problema está em boicotes na produçao do nitro ( por ser muito poluente sua fabricação ) ... Sou péssimo no Inglês e por isso não li esse artigo que vc postou aí em cima .. Pelo que entendi na sua introdução, o problema é só especulação ... assim espero ...
Subir pode ... Não pode é faltar !!!
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Re: Falta de nitro no mercado, será verdade?
Galera é incrível estamos na era flex e nossos motores só andam com metanol + nitro..... vergonhoso isso.. hehehehehehehe.
Re: Falta de nitro no mercado, será verdade?
o esquema esses rc se desinvolver pra total flex!!!!
funfa com tudo ;DDD
ai sim que o negocio ia ter graça
ia la comprava 50 litro de gasolina e ficava o ano todo brincando EHAIUehAUIHEiuAHIUEhAUIEhIAU
funfa com tudo ;DDD
ai sim que o negocio ia ter graça
ia la comprava 50 litro de gasolina e ficava o ano todo brincando EHAIUehAUIHEiuAHIUEhAUIEhIAU
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